tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13713642.post114562852104966767..comments2024-03-28T04:30:11.046-05:00Comments on Unlocked Wordhoard: Understanding SyllabiDr. Richard Scott Nokeshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01348275071082514870noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13713642.post-1146509159464815262006-05-01T13:45:00.000-05:002006-05-01T13:45:00.000-05:00Would pasting in Drout's essay be plagiarism?Would pasting in Drout's essay be plagiarism?Steve Muhlbergerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18136005762428407135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13713642.post-1146284225060272862006-04-28T23:17:00.000-05:002006-04-28T23:17:00.000-05:00I find it delightful and totally unsurprising that...I find it delightful and totally unsurprising that you'd correct people as to the correct plural of syllabus. <BR/><BR/>I agree that those "syllabus lawyers" who use feigned dumbassity to try to pull one over on a professor are evil. But I don't think you can totally dismiss the "syllabus as contract" view. A professor can't just change his or her mind in the middle of the semester regarding the weight of assignments, say, not tell anyone, and then dismiss complaints as "syllabus lawyering."Frankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03301077496668834657noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13713642.post-1146234581479786552006-04-28T09:29:00.000-05:002006-04-28T09:29:00.000-05:00"...when Montgomery demands that all education maj..."...when Montgomery demands that all education major syllabi have the phrase 'traditions of innovation' somewhere in it (an actual example) or else the class won't count toward the credit hours education majors need to be certified..."<BR/><BR/>What -- do they think that catch-phrases are the key to a person learning to be a teacher? Who are these wackos in Montgomery, and who gave them control of this stuff?<BR/><BR/>Oh yeah. *smacks self on head*Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13713642.post-1146081174683550892006-04-26T14:52:00.000-05:002006-04-26T14:52:00.000-05:00Cappy said:"...it's because of the funding from th...Cappy said:<BR/><BR/>"...it's because of the funding from the State, isn't it."<BR/><BR/>Reading this phrase, I feel it should be accompanied by some 'Duh Duhn DURRRGHNN!' music.<BR/><BR/>In my country* (a phrase I've spent a lifetime wanting to say, and you can feel free to put whatever funny accent you want on my comments as you read them aloud in your head - go on, be creative!), you do an English degree, which is fully paid for by the state, which has no say on content. <BR/><BR/>If you want to teach second level (12-18 year olds) then, you go and do a higher diploma in education - which is run in conjunction with the relevant govt. deparment and involves one learning to teach second level material, which is radically different from University material.<BR/><BR/>Result: no state interference in syllabontes at undergrad or any other level. <BR/><BR/>Obviously, a fairly simple analysis etc. - but a point worth making perhaps? <BR/><BR/>* Ireland, begorrah.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13713642.post-1146058397760061392006-04-26T08:33:00.000-05:002006-04-26T08:33:00.000-05:00I was intrigued (and a little horrified) by 'sylla...I was intrigued (and a little horrified) by 'syllabontes', so I decided to do a bit of checking.<BR/><BR/>Anyways - and I say now that I have never learned Greek and have only moderate Latin, I have seen it plauslibly explained that syllabi and syllabus come from Greek, not Latin and that, therefore, syllabi(or e+accent) is correct.<BR/><BR/>In the words of someone who seems to know what they're on about: 'The correct Greek plural is actually syllabē συλλαβη, as labos is a 3rd declension neuter ending in -os, going like teichos.'<BR/><BR/>And yes, I did want to pretend I knew Greek.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13713642.post-1146053998345303712006-04-26T07:19:00.000-05:002006-04-26T07:19:00.000-05:00Cappy,They have total control over the English *ed...Cappy,<BR/><BR/>They have total control over the English *education* majors, having nothing to do with funding. If we don't do what they demand, our students won't be certified to teach in the state of Alabama. And, since any given class is likely to have at least one education major, when Montgomery demands that all education major syllabi have the phrase "traditions of innovation" somewhere in it (an actual example) or else the class won't count toward the credit hours education majors need to be certified, it acts practically as a demand to change the syllabi for any class that could possibly have an education major enrolled. Oh, I suppose I could have two versions of the syllabus (one for education majors, and one for everyone else), but that is even MORE work.<BR/><BR/>I would say, on average, we've been informed of mandated changes to our syllabi about once per semester -- some semesters not at all, some more than once.Dr. Richard Scott Nokeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01348275071082514870noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13713642.post-1146031807903671122006-04-26T01:10:00.000-05:002006-04-26T01:10:00.000-05:00Well I am glad you realize that the majority of st...Well I am glad you realize that the majority of students that pay that close attention to syllabi are doing it for a reason. I have never really cared enough to lie, but then again I can't keep up with my syllabus past the first day of class.Talhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15244351427696021959noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13713642.post-1145979320112483322006-04-25T10:35:00.000-05:002006-04-25T10:35:00.000-05:00"Unfortunately, rules coming down from the state c..."Unfortunately, rules coming down from the state capitol about what has to be on the syllabi of English education majors now accounts for MOST of my syllabus."<BR/><BR/>Do they really have that much say-so over what is essentially an <I>optional</I> education? <BR/><BR/>...it's because of the funding from the State, isn't it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com